Council of Saints
Posted 30 December 2003 - 09:16 PM
Past activities of the Council have included CTF games, rooting/tourming runs to the Proving Grounds, and equipment runs. So please, get involved and have some fun! We look forward to hearing from you
Posted 01 January 2004 - 01:31 AM
Posted 01 January 2004 - 02:02 AM
Just because we only formally announced for adventurers to join us now, doesn't mean we have just formed. You're just out of the saint loop.
Posted 01 January 2004 - 02:26 AM
Posted 01 January 2004 - 04:13 AM
I dont even know what exactly you guys do. I dont think you made it very clear. How can a whole clan support it when some of the people in those clans dont fit the 90 and above? I wonder if the whole clan does support it or if it isnt just the clan leaders forcing it.
Its only a matter of time before something happens between the members and causing a fight. Its very hard to keep such a large alliance together(that is what it is right?).
The whole thing is the way I look at it is say Clan A puts in an player X and Clan B doesnt like that player because they didnt something to someone etc. Well then Clan B wants Clan A to remove player X. Maybe that wasnt clear but really in the end things like this are more hassal I find.
Posted 01 January 2004 - 04:20 AM
What does having a reputation 90 or above have anything to do with if you want to help people or not?
Why do you have to be a saint to be helping others?
Do you really think you're making the right image for players to only ask saints?
If you look down the outlaw list, most of them are the most knowledgeable players in the game. I think outlaws are more help since they know how to hold their own. I am not trying to pick on your council but you decided to announce it as if Saints were the good guys in the game. I know plenty who are asses. I can sit and not pk for 10 weeks or whatever and I will still be the same person behind the screen. Human nature shall set in!
Posted 01 January 2004 - 04:21 AM
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Asphyx Sabon Arcanepoet Dalamar
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Prophet Frixion Mountainlion Blaster
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Ixion Yankee Nelir Throm
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Posted 01 January 2004 - 04:40 AM
Posted 01 January 2004 - 05:12 AM
I think any group of players that wishes to form alliances is a great thing for the game. The problem is that some players haven't the maturity to handle being excluded so they try and damage what other people have.
Good luck in your venture guys, look forward to seeing what you do in the future.
Posted 01 January 2004 - 05:33 AM
Posted 01 January 2004 - 06:43 AM
Posted 01 January 2004 - 09:10 AM
Being a saint and being helpful doesn't necessarily mean being weak.
*carries big stick*
Posted 01 January 2004 - 10:11 AM
Posted 01 January 2004 - 10:50 AM
No one - even members from clans who have members in the Council - is forced or begged to join. It's just an outlet for those that want it. I've found more people to level with, as well as made new game friends I'd not have met if I was just in Northstar and didn't really branch out. I really adore it. *shrug*
As for only letting in saints/people with reps above 90 - I understand some outlaws are nice people. I don't hate all outlaws. However, because of what an outlaw is - I think it's best we not allow them in areas where we talk about decantering with smaller people (ie, our second classers) because we don't want pked if we can avoid it.
If anyone has questions, feel free to send me a tell in game.
Also - I *meow* Durova. *I* have outlaw friends, so I'll not begrudge someone else them.
Posted 01 January 2004 - 10:54 AM
Anyways, as Sylvaer stated, anything to promote alliances is great. But, I think you're limiting yourself from a vast variety of players although it appears that ban list selected some of the more aggressive pking outlaws (which doesn't mean anything, just an obsevation.)
Good luck on your venture.
Posted 01 January 2004 - 11:09 AM
Posted 01 January 2004 - 11:17 AM
And Apollyon is right. The Council has been in existence for some months now, and it was formed by 3 clans that were already in alliance with each other. Our alliances and the Council still remain strong.
The reason Outlaws aren't allowed to participate is because, quite simply, they are the "bad guys". It would be foolish for us to admit Outlaws to the Council and then discuss a trip to PG or some such. Announcing a trip through CPK areas with Outlaws present to hear it would be suicidial for our less powerful members. There are many channels within the game that everyone can participate in. Unfortunately they are inhabited by miscreants and trouble-makers, which is why we use a private channel.
It doesn't surprise any of us that an Outlaw would try and discredit the Council, whether it be through this forum or through coming to the chat room and creating problems. Thus, our giant list of banned Outlaws. Not to mention for the past couple days we've had an imm watching over the room, due to some praticularly troublesome people that tried to disrupt order there. This only strengthens our resolve to move forward with the Council. In fact, harassment like this is the reason for our existence in the first place.
Posted 01 January 2004 - 11:22 AM
We do decanter trips. I am *not* cool with telling someone I don't know - be they outlaw or non-saint - that I'm taking my level 118 rear end down to NPK.
People who come in the chat and some of the posters on here seem to think this is an anti-outlaw group. It's not. It's simply a bit of a refuge for like-minded people to hang out. Some of the people are outlaw hunters, true, but for the most part the Council itself has nothing to do with outlaws one way or the other.
As for discriminating - if people establish themselves through outlawing and pk as aggressive people - then it's *their* issue if they have a problem with not being able to join. We aren't against them for something they have no control over - they do have control.
Posted 01 January 2004 - 11:25 AM
No one is trying to force saints to associate only with other saints. This is just one more way for like-minded people to network together.
If you've got a different mindset, fine. Please keep it out of this thread. The game has plenty of other outlets for you.
Posted 01 January 2004 - 11:35 AM
Posted 01 January 2004 - 11:54 AM
As far as I know, this is an original idea and I would appreciate you keeping your superiority complexes in check.
Posted 01 January 2004 - 01:45 PM