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#26 Guest_pechini_*

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Posted 21 July 2000 - 06:43 AM

I don't think many people dispute that there has to be an evil force in the game. Empire isn't an evil force, they dont roleplay. They look for that little flaw you reveal of your real life and exploit it, they find the right buttons about real life and push them. They break rules, left and right, especially those regarding harassment of other players, and when punished cry foul that they're only paying back for being trash talked to begin with. The Imm's say they're picked on, and thus don't punish, when for some silly reason Vass is in the mood to punish, they bomb the server...

This isn't roleplay, and for someone trying so hard to promote roleplay blah blah blah...I could go on for an hour...it's useless..

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#27 Raistlin

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Posted 21 July 2000 - 04:38 PM

*shrug* Empire is the new version of the old clan, Dragon. I'm just curious, but why did you guys waste 5 mil (or 25 mil? Cant remember when it was requested..) and 5k-13k roots to get it activated? Something go wrong? :P

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Posted 21 July 2000 - 06:17 PM

Pechini,

I am online alot. Even though most of the recent changes have affected it mg badly, I still choose to play. If you have a problem with MM then dont play it. You're just making yourself took like a fat overweight mother who is upset with a bunch of ppl out to have a good time, over a text game. Cant you see how wrong that is?

I am sick of you claiming that we break the rules all the time, when you have NO proof at all. If anyone on the mud deserves harrassment and have ppl laughting at them, I tag u.

And as for your role-playing statement. We cant all play a blue haired fat overweight sidhe with low hp.

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#29 Jaxxon

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Posted 21 July 2000 - 08:04 PM

I give up, we all know everyone hates Empire and the way they play. Do you ppl really thinking that taking it to the msg board would change something?

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Posted 21 July 2000 - 08:09 PM


Jaxxon: You really think that posting a message pointing out that posting a message won't change anything is going to change anything?


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Posted 21 July 2000 - 09:51 PM

I dunno Calina, I think you just confirmed my statements...

I'm none of the things you claim, not overweight, not old, not a mother, dont have low hp or blue hair....

Your words dont hurt me, they make you look like an idiot with nothing else to do but try to put people down to pump yourself up...

I suggest deep psychotherapy..

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Posted 21 July 2000 - 11:26 PM

Common have some sympaty for Empire they're all probably teased a lot in real life for MANY reasons :P so they act like people they hate and try to make others feel as bad as they do. As for all you other people complaining about empire start your own clan and get other 4th classers and Archons to join and actually do something beside complain about everything they do. I've seen them taunt and harass a lot of people as for botting and other stuff... I can't prove and it's not really botting if you're sitting at the computer while it's running. If you're afk while killing Krakens there's a problem. Anyway not quite sure what the point about this post is but Calina is probably a fat mother herself with nothing else to do.

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#33 Jaxxon

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Posted 21 July 2000 - 11:50 PM

no I don't but isn't that what you just did? We seem to be trapped in a paradox.

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Posted 21 July 2000 - 11:50 PM

Well,

For you I suggest a shot gun in the face or a bomb under your car, OH NO, maybe you dont have a car. WHAT WILL WE DO!

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Posted 21 July 2000 - 11:52 PM

if i am a fat mother god help my childern!

and i do quite well in life thanks for asking :P

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#36 Jaxxon

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Posted 21 July 2000 - 11:58 PM

Hey! this is funner than actually playing MG! We should have rebots more often!

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Posted 22 July 2000 - 06:10 AM

I, for one, would like to admit that I am INDEED a fat mother recieveing a monthly welfare check. I DO have blue hair, above as well as below, and one of my many children is mentally retarded (more then challenged I'm sorry to say). I am mean to people on Materia Magica because of daily torment from children with sewing pins trying to pop me, as if I were a balloon woman. I can kill you all, and it makes me fell better. I can make fun of Pechini because she has been playing for 4 years, and still sucks, because it makes me feel better. I can CPK you and sac your equipment infront of you because, yes, it does make me feel better. In conclusion, if any of you have a problem with it, I suggest you call my parole officer and discuss it with him.

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Posted 22 July 2000 - 08:00 AM

I'd just like to point out is IS botting whether you are afk or not. And it IS illegal. (Botting is playing any part of the game without needing to have any interaction in what happens. Having a script/set of triggers to kill krakens for you, whether you've gone to a movie or you're sitting there in front of the keyboard reading a book, it's botting and illegal).

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Posted 22 July 2000 - 11:55 AM

Well Calina I not only have a car, I have
5 , take your pick...

But really this isn't about the fact that I
have a shitload more then you in real life...is it? Oh wait, I think it is...The only place you can throw greatness around is here...it's rather pitiful...

I don't play to be better then you, or anyone else. So I can't pk, big deal, it's not important to me. I don't need to kill people and trash them to have fun.

Again, psycho therapy is my reccomendation.

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Posted 22 July 2000 - 01:41 PM

Pechini,

U have 5 cars, GREAT, been Irish I get a good price on plastic explosives, stick in a little fused timer and BOOOM!

I find it very funny that u comment on my personal life, when you in fact know little if anything about me :P.

Again, a shotgun in the face or a bomb under your car(s) is my reccomendation.

Calina


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Posted 22 July 2000 - 03:32 PM

"U have 5 cars, GREAT, been Irish I get a good price on plastic explosives, stick in a little fused timer and BOOOM!"

I happen to live in Ireland, and I don't appreciate that particular comment, Calina. If you mess w/ explosives and shotguns, fine, I can't wait for the RUC to bust your ass. Just don't make everyone else think we're all like that.

Rigo, who is proud of his country



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Posted 22 July 2000 - 03:54 PM

I happen to live in ireland too, rigo.

Every nite in northern ireland there are up to 5 beatings by the RUC in belfast. If you wanta be PROUD of a police force that beats ppl then by all means do.

And from what I know you live in Northern Ireland, you have no right to call yourself irish.

Go back to britian

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Posted 22 July 2000 - 04:01 PM

oh ya, and your not IRISH your british, like every other country the Uk raped, you will be set out too. Just a matter of time.



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Posted 22 July 2000 - 04:19 PM

Calina, your comments show how very little you know about anything that goes on in Northern Ireland.

Five beatings a night in Belfast?! About the worse I've seen is a couple of drunks slapping each other about. I wouldn't be suprised if you've never been to Belfast.

Also, you're talking about a police force that's been shot and blown up inumberable times during recent years, all for trying to maintain some kind of peace. I think THAT is something to be proud of.

BTW some might say being born in Northern Ireland makes me Irish. Just a thought.

Rigo, who is sick of this arguement already

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Posted 22 July 2000 - 04:28 PM

well, Gomar, tell that to Redwing, he was fighting with someone else in the moat when I tried to run through, I literally ran through, but it wasn't fast enough, his trigger went of and his baron's rod webbed me, now I think that fits your definition of botting.

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Posted 22 July 2000 - 05:26 PM

First of all you told me yourself that you are british. What difference does it make if you were born in northern ireland or not, you clearly believe ulster belongs to the british crown.

I know just as much as anyone about the situation in northern ireland and have expericenced it first hand. I dont want to talk about the millions of irish people that have been killed and forced off their land by the brits because every other country that has had british rule went through the same thing.

The Good friday agreement was signed and a promise was made by your fellow country men to agree to all the points within the agreement, yet when the IRA allowed both their bank accounts and their weapons to be inspected, the unionists decieded that they still wanted to allow the orange lodge to march into catholic areas. Marchs, I might add, celebrating a battle that happened over 300 years ago.

Isn't that rubbing it into the faces of the Irish ppl who choose to live in northern ireland?. YOUR fellow country men are the ppl who are not allowing peace to reign in nothern ireland. The IRA and Sinn Fein have done all they promised.

The Good Friday and other indapendent reports have found that there are over 9000 punishment beatings within nothern ireland each year, mostly belfast and derry. By both sides. So clearly you DONT know what your talking about.

As for your police force statement, i am sure you have heard about Bloody Sunday?. If you know anything at all, I know you wont comment on what happened there. The Bloody Sunday enquiry is still on going and from all reports the british army and the RUC shot DEAD unarmed protesters. Protesting british rule in ireland.

Also, you believe that the shoot to kill policy that was maintained within northern Ireland is something to be proud of? You are proud of a police force that shoots dead 15 year old girls and grandmothers and asks questions later?.

Peace in northern ireland is a long long way away and with ppl like you who look with their eyes shut, I question if it will ever come at all.

Calina of [IRA]

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Posted 22 July 2000 - 05:40 PM

Rigo, Calina. I believe I speak for us all saying "who the hell cares?" as you can see by the thread name, "EMPIRE'S URL", try to keep the subject around that, not some island in the middle of nowhere nobody cares about :P

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Posted 22 July 2000 - 05:44 PM

Raistlin,

In the middle of where? Raistlin, you dont even know were your mouth is. Even though you talk enough shit out of it. So i wouldnt expect you to know were ireland is.

Calina

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Posted 22 July 2000 - 06:27 PM

This will be my last reply in this thread, not because I'am afraid of countering your flawed arguements, Calina, but because I truly AM sick of having you make assumptions about what I THINK.

First off, I made no claim that Ulster belonged to the britsh crown. Northern Ireland is part of the UK, just as Scotland and Wales are too. I personally don't believe in monarchies, all I know is that most countries in the world have been conqured more than once by different races. And not a single racist comment of the type you produce frequently is made, instead it is taught at schools and acknoledged as an event in history. In other words, it's history, live with it.

Secondly, you claim to have experienced the situation first hand. Then you say you don't want to talk about the millions killed or forced off their land. These events (concerning millions of people being killed or forced away) happened more than a century ago, yet you claim to have experienced them first hand?! Once again, it's history, live with it.

From there on your argruement loses what little coherance it had: from what I've heard, it is both sides that are cautious about handing over weapons etc. As I understand, several unionist factions handed over weapons, in the hope that the IRA would follow suit. To date they have not, simply content to say "We're not using the guns, what's the problem?" Even this is untrue, with politicians on both sides wondering at what point the IRA has broken it's ceasefire. IMHO, they have already done so, having fired weapons since the agreement.

And then there's the marches. Who gave you the authority to dictate what and where people may celebrate their heritage? And yet again I'd like to say I'am Irish, and I have no problems with the marches. The violence that accompanies them is another story, but I've said before I don't condone or support violence. And before you use that against me, remember Orange halls were firebombed during the 12th too.

Is celebrating Hannukah in Northern Ireland "rubbing it into the faces" of Christians living here? I think not. Let people celebrate their heritage wherever they live, and yes, that applies to Irish from the Republic as well. If maybe you'd stop complaining and exercise your right to do it.

9000 punishment beatings? Maybe, but if you recall correctly you'll see your original statement was beatings by the RUC, of which I'am sure you can't accuse of 9000 punishment beatings. It's usual to leave that to the terrorists dont'cha think?

I chuckled at the next part, because I could spend all day pointing out the flaws...
Bloody Sunday, UK army paratroopers shoot dead
anarmed protesters. Well, do some research, Calina, and you'll find that the Paratroopers were fired upon. Try going into a combat situation yourself, and keeping cool. I don't condone violence, I keep saying that, but if the IRA hadn't fired those first shots, none of those deaths would have occured. Perhaps they should be a little more responsible for their own actions?

And the marches were in protest of laws biased towards unionists and protestants, not against British rule. I feel that was quite justified, the laws WERE biased towards unionists and protestant. The laws have been changed for awhile now to be fairer to everyone.

Apoligies for straying off the original subject, but just so SOMETHING in this is relevant...
Yeah, Empire shouldn't be posting a porn site as it's clan URL, does it go out of it's way to annoy the imms as well as the players?

Rigo

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Posted 22 July 2000 - 07:47 PM


Its clear we dont have the same view points on this matter. The UK as you know is a monarchy, THATS the BASE of the british system of law and goverment. Like wales and scotland northern ireland too has broke away and become part of the british common wealth. If its history how come today the events of the past and the present cast such a shadow on both northern irish and southern irish ppls lives?. Noone has ever said sorry for the thousands of ppl that have been kill, on both sides. How can you live with a history thats so fresh in every irish persons memory for the last 30 years. Try come over and look at it from our side.

As for questioning my experience in the northern irish situation, I didnt want to have to go into it, but a uncle of mine was shot in the head and killed by the RUC in northern ireland while coming out of a shop during Bloody sunday. The fact that he had his 3 year old daughter was in his arms while the RUC opened fired, shows me that these murders never had any respect for life.

And as for the millions of ppl killed amd murdered and forced off their land, Buy a book or look on the internet for information reguarding the irish famine. 4 million irish people were displaced because British landlords forced irish farmers to produce grain for export to europe. While 1 million irish people were straving to death, grains ship left from cork everyday carrying enough grain to feed the irish population 4 times over.

Death ships left galway and cork every day with irish ppl MADE to leave the country of their birth because of a greedy goverment who caredless for human life.

Again, you are misinformed, Both sides have spilt. The IRA wont and I agree that they shouldnt give up any weapons UNTIL the Orange Lodge agree to stop its face rubbing marches or until the others just up and sign to a disarming quota.

Who gave the Orange Lodge authority to dictate where or when its members should be allowed to march? If you were irish, the marches themselfs you strike a cord. You say its only history, then live with the fact that the marches this year have been stopped. Long may it continue. Yes, Orange halls were and still are firebombed, but alot of ppl see that as justice for your countries murderist passed.

"Is celebrating Hannukah in Northern Ireland "rubbing it into the faces" of Christians living here? I think not." To me thats a typical statement. You dont look at it from anyone elses side but your own.

Open a paper and read the reports from the bloody sunday enquiry, Paratroopers HEARD shots from the direction of north street, listen to that, HEARD shoots, didnt see anyone with a gun, no bullets rained down on them, noone was hurt, so they opened fire on IRA soldiers hidden behind the barakads?. These men were trained army soldiers, trained to stay cool under combat situations. Please explain to be again now the IRA caused the paratroopers to open fire on the 100's of women and childern?.

Its clear to alot of ppl that unless unionist dont stop their clear disagreement with solutions and fixes that both side broker, its going to stay the same.

I dont see your responce to the British armys shoot to kill policy?. Or is it that you can not say anything because u know it to be true.

Calina of [ira]