[Taliesyn]

ya...some of your immortals may see it as bad etc...but when older players are trying to encourage new players to use NEW clients...why stop us? You really want your players to keep using portal? Really?!?!?? come on now........

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[36] Novice clan members heard you say, 'mk. choose to not learn. your problem not mine.'

 

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[CLAN Novice Adventurers] A disturbingly powerful voice: 'guys...'

 

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[36] Novice clan members heard you say, 'sorry. just saying. been trying to point out the good with mush etc. keep getting told im wrong lol'

 

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[TALK B] Cenoic: 'portal was my first client....ever' [1]

 

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[36] Novice clan members heard you say, 'portal was my first client....ever'

 

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[TALK B] Cenoic: 'wow. mis' [1]

 

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 MATERIA MAGICA: Search Players Online

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 [60 :120 M Ogre  Rogue Wilds ] Indora [Snuggles](Quest)

 [50 :170 M Gnome Druid Towne ] Cenoic 

 [60 :120 F Elf   Pries  Clan ] Shinde [(-NortH+)]

 [60 :120 F Elf   Palad  Clan ] Kayuki [(-NortH+)][A]

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 Total matches: 4.

 

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[CLAN Novice Adventurers] Cassius: 'Hey, if Runnyn wants to voluntarily suckacock, that's totally up to him/her/them.'

 

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[36] Novice clan members heard you say, 'O.o'

 

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[36] Novice clan members heard you say, 'wasn't going that far'

 

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[36] Novice clan members heard you say, 'clearly Cass has a big throat'

 

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[36] Novice clan members heard you say, 'I mean. brb'

 

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[CLAN Novice Adventurers] Iyara: 'enough.'

 

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[36] Novice clan members heard you say, 'lol k :P'

 

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You tell Cassius 'still easy to rile em up lmao'

 

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[CLAN Novice Adventurers] Iyara: 'people can prefer different clients. that's FINE.  be respectful'

 

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Cassius tells you 'lmao I got bolted for saying that'

 

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You tell Cassius 'i bet lol'

 

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You tell Cassius 'you made me lol literally though'

 

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[CLAN Novice Adventurers] Runnyn: 'It's not even about preference.. I'm being told things about it's user-friendlyness.. '

 

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[36] Novice clan members heard you say, 'literally. mush is 10 times better if not more than portal lol'

 

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[CLAN Novice Adventurers] Iyara: 'AHEM.'

 

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[CLAN Novice Adventurers] Gunbladee: 'bless you'

 

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Iyara tells you 'stop'

 

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To communicate with the novice clan, "clantalk novice <message>".

 

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[CLAN Novice Adventurers] Loman: 'zmud 3.62 4 lyfe!'

 

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[36] Novice clan members heard you say, 'was still being nice! sorry'

 

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[CLAN Novice Adventurers] Runnyn: 'i'm not even saying it's not more adaptable, etc.. whatever. it's not been user-friendly. especially all those start-up errors.'

 

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[36] Novice clan members heard you say, 'Runn if you are being told ill things about mush...it is cause they didn't take the time to learn it'

 

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[36] Novice clan members heard you say, 'honestly m8'

 

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[36] Novice clan members heard you say, 'mush is cool. stick with portal. toy with mush'

 

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[CLAN Novice Adventurers] Loman: 'telnet'

 

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[36] Novice clan members heard you say, '^'

 

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[36] Novice clan members heard you say, 'leave it to Loman'

 

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[CLAN Novice Adventurers] Loman: 'straight up gangster style'

 

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[CLAN Novice Adventurers] Runnyn: 'I'm saying it from experience..'

 

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[36] Novice clan members heard you say, 'I know I ran portal for years. started around 2001 with portal'

 

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[CLAN Novice Adventurers] Runnyn: 'despite portal afaik not having a simple button to enable txt-speech.. '

 

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Minotorious@#welcomeback is now relaying messages from this chat room.

 

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[37] Novice clan members heard you say, 'didn't get mush till like 2013'

 

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Iyara has given you the 'nonoviceclan' restriction for the duration of 2 hours.

Reason: listen to me when I tell you to stop

 

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You have been restricted from interacting with the novice clan.

 

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You tell Iyara 'I was giving constructive feedback why'

 

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A masculine voice yells 'The ship Merdraco be docked at Pirate's Cove! Departure in twenty minutes for Sigil!'

 

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Iyara tells you 'once someone gets defensive like that, it is no longer constructive :('

 

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You tell Iyara 'not trolling. :('

 

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You tell Iyara 'i didn't get defensive'

 

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Iyara tells you 'no, he did'

 

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You tell Iyara 'so why did i get kicked from novice?'

 

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Iyara tells you 'because you didn't stop when I told you to'

 

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You tell Iyara 'I was constructively talking. perhaps you should tell them not to get so defensive'

 

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You tell Iyara 'I am trying to get players to stick around......and you mute me for it'

 

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You tell Iyara '*applaud*'

 

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Iyara tells you 'making him feel attacked so that he gets defensive is not helping that cause'

 

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You tell Iyara 'they were complaining earlier cause they didn't feel they could do much...so I have been trying to push mush on them'

 

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You tell Iyara 'he is an old player'

 

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You tell Iyara 'that is still stuck on portal...'

 

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Iyara tells you 'and that's fine! he can  use portal if he wants'

 

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You tell Iyara 'not encouraging players to upgrade clients is just asking for them to eventually leave'

 

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You tell Iyara 'especially when they complain about the client they are on'

 

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Iyara tells you 'that was past encouraging, into making him feel attacked'

 

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You tell Iyara 'nobody was talking bs on anyone'

 

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You tell Iyara 'we were just talking'

 

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You tell Iyara 'i wasn't being mean with em. you had no reason to mute me :('

 

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Iyara tells you 'not stopping when I said stop, is the reason.'

 

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You tell Iyara 'I am only trying to encourage them to utilize the mush package that was worked on for so long'

 

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Iyara tells you 'it doesn't matter if you agreed with why'

 

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  This is the post office where letters and packages can be mailed.  It is

one stop in the mystical Alyrian postal system; all letters and packages

seem to find the intended recipient with incredible accuracy and speed. 

Stamps, parchment, and pens can also be purchased here.  A cluttered mess of

packages and envelopes is all over the counter, while several bags of

unsorted mail are by the door.  

(  2) A faded yellow page of parchment has been dropped here.

[Shop] The postmaster is helping people with their mail.

 

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Iyara tells you 'it's only for 2 hours, you will get to resume--you were helping quite  a bit'

 

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You tell Iyara 'making novice available for all like this and then keeping me from trying to get them to the new clients is bullshit'

 

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You tell Iyara 'exactly. and you muted me'

 

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  This is the post office where letters and packages can be mailed.  It is

one stop in the mystical Alyrian postal system; all letters and packages

seem to find the intended recipient with incredible accuracy and speed. 

Stamps, parchment, and pens can also be purchased here.  A cluttered mess of

packages and envelopes is all over the counter, while several bags of

unsorted mail are by the door.  

(  2) A faded yellow page of parchment has been dropped here.

[Shop] The postmaster is helping people with their mail.

 

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You tell Iyara 'hell with helping'

 

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Iyara tells you 'then you are free to not participate, if it's as bad as all that'

 

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You tell Iyara 'apparently it is. you muted me'

 

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  This is the post office where letters and packages can be mailed.  It is

one stop in the mystical Alyrian postal system; all letters and packages

seem to find the intended recipient with incredible accuracy and speed. 

Stamps, parchment, and pens can also be purchased here.  A cluttered mess of

packages and envelopes is all over the counter, while several bags of

unsorted mail are by the door.  

(  2) A faded yellow page of parchment has been dropped here.

[Shop] The postmaster is helping people with their mail.

 

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[CLAN Novice Adventurers] Xif has gained class level 50, total level 50!

 

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You tell Iyara 'i am all about keeping this server going. have been for around 14 years'

 

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  This is the post office where letters and packages can be mailed.  It is

one stop in the mystical Alyrian postal system; all letters and packages

seem to find the intended recipient with incredible accuracy and speed. 

Stamps, parchment, and pens can also be purchased here.  A cluttered mess of

packages and envelopes is all over the counter, while several bags of

unsorted mail are by the door.  

(  2) A faded yellow page of parchment has been dropped here.

[Shop] The postmaster is helping people with their mail.

 

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You tell Iyara 'Shouldn't you allow players to work out conflicts? not mute one just cause another gets defensive? they are allowed to get defensive...it is our "older" players job to let them know we are just trying to help'

 

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You tell Iyara 'but you muting me prevents that'

 

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You tell Iyara 'now I look like a butthole cause Im not talkin to em anymore'

 

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Iyara tells you 'you did hear me when I said you were muted for not listening to me, not for what you said in novice, right?'

 

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You tell Iyara 'i did hear you. and i tried to change up how it was presented. apparently I failed'

 

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  This is the post office where letters and packages can be mailed.  It is

one stop in the mystical Alyrian postal system; all letters and packages

seem to find the intended recipient with incredible accuracy and speed. 

Stamps, parchment, and pens can also be purchased here.  A cluttered mess of

packages and envelopes is all over the counter, while several bags of

unsorted mail are by the door.  

(  2) A faded yellow page of parchment has been dropped here.

[Shop] The postmaster is helping people with their mail.

 

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Usage: clantalk novice <argument>

Type 'HELP CLAN' for more information.

 

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You have been restricted from interacting with the novice clan.

 

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Displaying all affects and modifiers.

You are affected by the following:

* You are resistant to: poison disease.

Spell: sanctuary            - Level   1, modifies none              by    0.

Spell: bless                - Level   1, modifies saving-spell      by    2.

Spell: haste                - Level 117, modifies attack-speed      by   19.

Spell: detect invisibility  - Level  19, modifies none              by    0.

Spell: armor                - Level  30, modifies ar                by    2.

Spell: epiphany             - Level 500, modifies SCC               by   75.

Spell: stone skin           - Level  20, modifies ar                by    1.

Equipped Item 'a pair of cleric's leggings' is enchanted with:

Magic: cure disease         - Level   5, modifies skill-power       by    5.

Magic: cure poison          - Level   5, modifies skill-power       by    5.

Total of 7 magical affects.

 

Additional Modifiers:

Saving against Spells and Most Spell Effects:                  22 

Saving against Petrification (i.e., Abjure, Kill, etc.):       5  

Spell Point Regeneration Bonus:                                            10 

Spell Complexity Comprehension Bonus:                                      75 

Accuracy Penalty:                                                          -3 

Attack speed Bonus: (improving attacks and gaining more)                   19 

 

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Player Information for: Cenoic threatens to camp your lawn while he

  Hours Played:      2,064      Age:            24 years (Born 4/28/1453)

  Class Level:        50        Total Level:    170

  Race:               gnome     Gender:         male

  Class:           druid        Alignment:      341 (-kind)

  Hit Points:       1060/1060   Practices:      14

  Spell Points:     1625/1625   Quest Points:   9,404 (305 quests)

  Stamina:          1013/1013   Reputation:     100 (Saint)

  Strength:           12/18     Vitality:       19/19

  Knowledge:          20/24     Luck:           15/20

  Wisdom:             18/18     Courage:        18/20

  Agility:            21/23     Sanity:         11/22

  Personality:        12/18

  Spell Complexity Comprehension (SCC):  80%

  Proficiency Complexity Comprehension (PCC):

    Wea:  55%  Def:  77%  Com:  42%  Tek: 100%  Mys: 100%

  Class Path: 1st: rogue  2nd: wizard 3rd: druid 4th: (n/a)

* You have 171,685,499 experience points and need 3,814,501 to advance.

* You have killed 14,130 creatures and 0 players in combat.

* You have been killed 37 times, 1 in player kill combat.

* You have defeated 2 players and lost 2 times in arena combat.

* You are carrying 10 items weighing 10 stones and 90 pebbles.

* You have attained 55 marks and 0 relationships.

* You are a follower of Animism, the Acknowledgment of the Life present in All Things. (0 Piety)

* You have 2,633 building points and 0 reward units.

* Crystal Guild quests completed: 92

* Your PK rating is: 993

* You are on the quest: 'Wizard Training !!'

* You are on the quest: 'Druid Training !!'

* You have the 'nonoviceclan' restriction, placed on Tue Mar  8 19:50:06 2016

  by Iyara. Expires in approximately 1 hour(s).

  Reason: listen to me when I tell you to stop

 

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  This is the post office where letters and packages can be mailed.  It is

one stop in the mystical Alyrian postal system; all letters and packages

seem to find the intended recipient with incredible accuracy and speed. 

Stamps, parchment, and pens can also be purchased here.  A cluttered mess of

packages and envelopes is all over the counter, while several bags of

unsorted mail are by the door.  

(  2) A faded yellow page of parchment has been dropped here.

[Shop] The postmaster is helping people with their mail.

 

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  This is the post office where letters and packages can be mailed.  It is

one stop in the mystical Alyrian postal system; all letters and packages

seem to find the intended recipient with incredible accuracy and speed. 

Stamps, parchment, and pens can also be purchased here.  A cluttered mess of

packages and envelopes is all over the counter, while several bags of

unsorted mail are by the door.  

(  2) A faded yellow page of parchment has been dropped here.

[Shop] The postmaster is helping people with their mail.

 

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Nybor@#welcomeback is no longer relaying from this chat room.

 

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You tell Iyara 'alright alright. unmute me please. I will leave runn alone bout portal. I PROMISE <3'

 

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Iyara tells you 'alright. give me one minute'

 

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You tell Iyara 'you are so stubborn. no wonder my mum like you lol'

 

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Iyara tells you 'lol'

apparently trying to talk a new player into using a better client is not allowed.

Also: keep in mind this was pasted from an ongoing conversation....about how portal is apparently better than mush *O.o*

Yall make me want to go inactive....AGAIN

[Eledar]

No clue why but it would not let me post separately heh. But ya...basic proof here that it was merely a discussion about portal/mush.....not trolling.....but I get told to stop.... I wasn't being rude.....

 

moral of the story: Don't give client advice to new/returning players.

[Ithilwen]

Taliesyn, the reason you were no-noviced, as Iyara explained to you in the log you posted, was clearly that you were not listening to her when she asked you to stop. She is in charge and when you go against her authority, she doesn't even need a reason to no-channel you, but not only did she give you a reason, she patiently explained to you her reason (more than once), and then she even removed the restriction (which, by the way, was only an HOUR(!!!)). The only thing this log does is show that you had your reason and you continued to push the issue, resulting in Iyara having to respond. It wouldn't have been an issue if it had just been dropped like she asked you. 

 

 

[Reznov]

Really? I thought the moral of the story was to listen to Iyara. Clearly, I'm taking things too literal again.

[Eledar]

Ya. I was merely discussing portal vs mush......the player was complaining about things with portal......I was merely presenting mush to them as a solution......there was more to the log than I could get.....Iyara' reasoning for muting me was basically....causing the player to get defensive. Iyara tells you 'once someone gets defensive like that, it is no longer constructive :('..............It was merely an opinion stated......as to which I presented alternative....discussion was not heated. Immortal interference was not required. Someone is just bored out their mind.

Clearly you both brown nose. It was a returning player that was trying to argue portal better than mush. I was just trying to point out the benefits of mush, but go ahead. brown nose some more.

[Eledar]

Novice channel is a joke.

[Eledar]

So now cause I talk shit on pktalk with other players...i get whalesonged...and when I ask to know why in prayer...no response...so ya Ima get a bit pissed off....this is stupid.....get rid of the pktalk channel if you don't intend it to be a shit talk channel..............thanks for the freezing btw Iyara.....learn to immortal. really....