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Blog Post - Duende - 1/23/18 - Spell Damage Caps


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#1 Duende

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 08:51 PM

Posted:     Tue Jan 23 16:38:06 2018

We recently completed one of the Immortal for a Day days, which was productive and enlightening, and will be the topic of a later blog post. However, one of the topics that arose centered around some observed damage not matching the speculated damage, and possible reasons for it.  We spent a few hours debugging and correlating damage sources and damage output, and discovered that while the complaint was accurate, it was based on something expected and described, but which might be currently underappreciated.  So the topic of this blog post will be magical damage caps.  
 
We have about 100 spells that qualify as nukes; spells whose primary effect is a one-time burst of damage.  Nearly all spells differ in some way in their implementation, but the general shape of them is thus:
 
All nukes have a base damage amount and a damage type, visible in their help files, like `*Deals flames (3.1 base) damage.`.  That base damage receives a generic 'adjustment', which looks like halving damage in pk, reducing damage further in pk-half-damage rooms, increasing the damage on the faerie plane dealt from faeries to non-faeries, etc.  There is an additional damage coefficient which multiplies the damage by a lookup based on the caster's level; this coefficient ranges from *2 at level 1, to *80 at level 100, to *180 at 250, to *550 at level 500.  In our example spell Fireball, there is an additional 'fireballs' multiplier, which is typically 1 but has a (caster level/350) chance to have 2 fireballs, effectively dealing double damage.  Fireball's skillpower is to increase the damage by (skillpower%), so that also modifies the amount of damage.  The amount of damage dealt is then fed into saves-against checks, which has a ton of components.  
 
The saves-against checks for fireball takes the product of the spell's damage type and adds the caster's bonuses: (+fire-damage-prcnt).  After adding the caster's bonuses, it takes into account all of the victim's bonuses: resistance to fire (-25); vulnerability to fire (+25); global save bonuses; resistance stats (-fire-prcnt); SVS (too complicated for this).  
 
After all of the bonuses are calculated, that is the final damage output from the fireball spell, and similar occurs with all other nukes.  However, the 'final damage output' is then subject to additional constraint- for sanity's sake, and to prevent anything really crazy from occurring, skills have individual damage caps.  Because one of the first calculations in determining damage places heavy emphasis on caster level, it's totally plausible that a mis-set skill could deal enormous amounts of damage incorrectly, and the caps were presumably meant to prevent that.  Unfortunately, while they succeed in that, they were probably mis-tuned, so instead of only coming into play at 150% of the anticipated damage output or something, lots are set at 80% of the damage output, meaning a level 200 would deal the same damage with the spell as an archon.  Fixing this is relatively straightforward, but won't be possible for a few months, as it'll take lots of testing and refinement.  
 
We could remove damage caps, but that would have adverse effects on players, as exemplified by a few spot-checks.  It turns out that firebolt hurts a lot, but is capped at dealing 5k damage- it turns out without the damage caps, it would deal about 12k damage, a hit which few could survive.  Tweaking the values upward would help make the math add up, but that benefit isn't worth the risk of commensurate increased damage, like the aforementioned firebolt.  We could determine what, for each spell, the intersection of damage-cap at archon and base-damage would be, but that would lower the damage for lower levels in ways that may not be desirable.  We may decide the caps are weird as-is, and simply display messages to players when they hit the caps, the way that imms can see with debug right now.  The eventual answer probably lies somewhere in the middle, but requires more study regardless.  Because that study will require time, and the implementation moreso, and we're probably a good month+ away from next reboot, the easy answer is to simply publicize the caps, and let everyone determine how to proceed on their own.  I'm sure there'll be some feedback on this, which #troll might be the best outlet for.  
 
-Duende
 
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